It’s safe to say Journey’s Jonathan Cain and Steve Perry are not on good terms.

Journey’s keyboardist Cain revealed in a recent interview with Michael Cavacini that singer Perry told him to “lose [his] number.” When Cavacini asked Cain if he tried to reach out to Perry since Journey’s induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2017, Cain said, “No. He already said, in so many words, that he’s not interested in a relationship with me or Neal [Schon].”

Cain has still been positive about Perry’s comeback album Traces, being complimentary towards the singer in his own book.

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