Turns out, even leading man Johnny Depp has self-doubt sometimes.

Alice Cooper recently explained how he had to persuade Depp to sing the David Bowie cover of “Heroes” on their new Hollywood Vampires album, Rise.

“I knew Bowie pretty well but I didn’t have an emotional connection to him like that, as much as Johnny did. Johnny says, ‘Well, you sing it,’ and I said, ‘No, you sing it.’ And he says, ‘I don’t sing.’ I said, ‘You did Sweeney Todd…’ Reminding him that he sings! And he sings it better than I could ever sing it.”

Watch the full interview below.